A big fan of this (for design and content) - and built in Expression Engine. Love the home page layout, and the transition to other layouts where necessary. Nice one, Boulton!
Is it just me, or is there something quite derivative about the look of this deign? A touch of hicksdesign here, maybe a little hint of connex in there as well. It's undeniably clean and clear however - it works well, and the content is excellent.
Nice site.
Enough is enough with this "looks likes John Hicks' work" malarkey. I mean, besides the fact that they're both using Lucidia Sans as the default font, the colour green and some white, what other similarities are there? The skip to content and text only links? The fact that he is using a nicely styled "comment box" too? Give me a break ...
Mark's work is nothing like Hicksdesign or Connex. His site is highly original and works well. It's simple to naviagte, nice to look at and completely usable. I think it's a job very well done. Even if it does use green.
I think you both may need to read the comment guidelines.
Rich - "Sorry, but where is the design in this site? Poor, very poor." isn't exactly constructive. The comment guidelines clearly states:
...allows for quality discussion on the design merits of the site. If their is something about the design you do not like, feel free to express your opinion, but please provide justification so that everyone may benefit.
Your comment didn't do this. Please elaborate.
Rich's mum - I think calling Rich a "twat" was unnecessary and certainly not the type of thing anyone would want on this site.
Jed,
Very well said and I for one take your comments onboard and have to admit that I had not read the comment guidlines.
I feel that a lot more could be done with the design of the site than just a green stripe at the top. I am all in favour of nice clean crisp design, but as far as I am concerned this show's a complete lack of imagination. I am in no way shape or form trying to be derogitary to Mark as I do like a lot of his work, this however, as far as I am concerned is poor.
Fair point Rich. Maybe if this site was taken on face value, then yes a "green stripe at the top" may not be seen as "imaginitive".
I guess it comes down to how define design. If imagination is how you define design, that's ok. I define it as communication.
If you'd like to drop me an email i'm more than willing to discuss what I was trying to achieve with the design. I'm not sure this is really the forum to do that.
Thanks for the comments.
What is all this mindless drivel?
I for one thought it was a place to give constructive comments about CSS driven web sites, NOT a place where people come to bicker. If you wish to do this Rich and Rich's mum please find an appropriate forum.
Personally I find it hard to accept Rich's comments as it is the easiest thing in the world to criticise. Now if Rich was willing to show his mindblowing site then I may change my mind. Strange that Rich has declined to do this to date. I wonder why?
:)
Rich,
If your comments were 'constructive' in the way they were given in tone then I would've accepted them. However, to merely call a web site 'poor' is nothing more than verbal diarrhoea.
By the way I've taken the liberty of looking at your work and it indicates you are in the infancy of your knowledge of CSS so I will not pass comment. I look forward to doing so once you have successfully submitted to this web site.
Graham,
You have passed comment and if my knowlege is in it's 'infancy' can you please explain to me why my sites validate (with the exception of the npower ones due to the CMS we use) and are AAA accessible? Also where are your sites?
Rich,
I didn't want this to get personal, my sole purpose was to defend a friend of mine who was unecessarily attacked for a design which I and several others admire. Knowing Mark as I do and his background in design I felt your comments were unfair and far from constructive. Also a web site from a designers perspective should not only function well it should be aesthetically pleasing and suit the market it's intended for. This I feel Mark has completed on all levels.
If you wish to see a few of my web sites then I've put a few up just now on my home web site. I don't pretend to have extensive CSS knowledge. Instead I tailor my web sites to my clients needs, some contain CSS, some are XHTML, some are Flash, HTML & CSS driven, some are purely HTML, it all depends on the clients requirements and budget.
Graham,
I'm not getting personal nor am I attacking Mark personally as I have previousily stated I am mereley giving my own point of view. It strikes me that I am am the one being slated on here for just putting across my thoughts!
You have hit the nail on the head with comment about 'clients requirements' and my clients are happy 9 times out of ten with the work I produce first time - that's what really counts, not whay any of us think on here.
I find this all a bit laughable really because the one thing you have to do as a designer is not take criticism personally. I don't, I treat it as beneficial and something to learn from as I and I assume you and all of us do, is try to get better all the time.
Client requirments and budget. Sums it all up really.
I would comment as to the actual design, but seeing as how cssvault has gone "commercial" (more so than it was before) and has been bought for a hefty sum, I won't be responding any further.
Nice site ... keep up the good work - I love the way you expressed your feelings
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A big fan of this (for design and content) - and built in Expression Engine. Love the home page layout, and the transition to other layouts where necessary. Nice one, Boulton!
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Is it just me, or is there something quite derivative about the look of this deign? A touch of hicksdesign here, maybe a little hint of connex in there as well. It's undeniably clean and clear however - it works well, and the content is excellent. Nice site.
Ian
Thanks for adding me - appreciate the constructive comments.
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Enough is enough with this "looks likes John Hicks' work" malarkey. I mean, besides the fact that they're both using Lucidia Sans as the default font, the colour green and some white, what other similarities are there? The skip to content and text only links? The fact that he is using a nicely styled "comment box" too? Give me a break ... Mark's work is nothing like Hicksdesign or Connex. His site is highly original and works well. It's simple to naviagte, nice to look at and completely usable. I think it's a job very well done. Even if it does use green.
Greg
Sorry, but where is the design in this site? Poor, very poor.
Rich
Rich you're a twat... the end
Rich's mum
Hey, I'm entitled to my opinion, so who's the twat?
Rich
I think you both may need to read the comment guidelines. Rich - "Sorry, but where is the design in this site? Poor, very poor." isn't exactly constructive. The comment guidelines clearly states: ...allows for quality discussion on the design merits of the site. If their is something about the design you do not like, feel free to express your opinion, but please provide justification so that everyone may benefit. Your comment didn't do this. Please elaborate. Rich's mum - I think calling Rich a "twat" was unnecessary and certainly not the type of thing anyone would want on this site.
Jed
Jed, Very well said and I for one take your comments onboard and have to admit that I had not read the comment guidlines. I feel that a lot more could be done with the design of the site than just a green stripe at the top. I am all in favour of nice clean crisp design, but as far as I am concerned this show's a complete lack of imagination. I am in no way shape or form trying to be derogitary to Mark as I do like a lot of his work, this however, as far as I am concerned is poor.
Rich
Fair point Rich. Maybe if this site was taken on face value, then yes a "green stripe at the top" may not be seen as "imaginitive". I guess it comes down to how define design. If imagination is how you define design, that's ok. I define it as communication. If you'd like to drop me an email i'm more than willing to discuss what I was trying to achieve with the design. I'm not sure this is really the forum to do that. Thanks for the comments.
Mark Boulton (http://www.markboulton.co.uk)
What is all this mindless drivel? I for one thought it was a place to give constructive comments about CSS driven web sites, NOT a place where people come to bicker. If you wish to do this Rich and Rich's mum please find an appropriate forum. Personally I find it hard to accept Rich's comments as it is the easiest thing in the world to criticise. Now if Rich was willing to show his mindblowing site then I may change my mind. Strange that Rich has declined to do this to date. I wonder why? :)
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Some call it "lack of inspiration" others call it "eye for functional design". I belong to group number 2.
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Rich, If your comments were 'constructive' in the way they were given in tone then I would've accepted them. However, to merely call a web site 'poor' is nothing more than verbal diarrhoea. By the way I've taken the liberty of looking at your work and it indicates you are in the infancy of your knowledge of CSS so I will not pass comment. I look forward to doing so once you have successfully submitted to this web site.
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Graham, You have passed comment and if my knowlege is in it's 'infancy' can you please explain to me why my sites validate (with the exception of the npower ones due to the CMS we use) and are AAA accessible? Also where are your sites?
Rich
Rich, I didn't want this to get personal, my sole purpose was to defend a friend of mine who was unecessarily attacked for a design which I and several others admire. Knowing Mark as I do and his background in design I felt your comments were unfair and far from constructive. Also a web site from a designers perspective should not only function well it should be aesthetically pleasing and suit the market it's intended for. This I feel Mark has completed on all levels. If you wish to see a few of my web sites then I've put a few up just now on my home web site. I don't pretend to have extensive CSS knowledge. Instead I tailor my web sites to my clients needs, some contain CSS, some are XHTML, some are Flash, HTML & CSS driven, some are purely HTML, it all depends on the clients requirements and budget.
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Graham, I'm not getting personal nor am I attacking Mark personally as I have previousily stated I am mereley giving my own point of view. It strikes me that I am am the one being slated on here for just putting across my thoughts! You have hit the nail on the head with comment about 'clients requirements' and my clients are happy 9 times out of ten with the work I produce first time - that's what really counts, not whay any of us think on here. I find this all a bit laughable really because the one thing you have to do as a designer is not take criticism personally. I don't, I treat it as beneficial and something to learn from as I and I assume you and all of us do, is try to get better all the time. Client requirments and budget. Sums it all up really.
Rich
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I would comment as to the actual design, but seeing as how cssvault has gone "commercial" (more so than it was before) and has been bought for a hefty sum, I won't be responding any further.
Eric
I like the site and think it has some appeal to some and to others it may not, but in the web development world this is everyday life. Well done Mark.
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